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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;44;19
Hi, and welcome back to the two Dudes Talking Motorcycle podcast. My name is Mitch, my name is Gleb and today we are talking about the Post motorcycle safety course experience. So we got this idea from a listener of ours named Derek and his question was basically saying that, you know, if we had any advice on dealing with high speeds and longer, longer rides starting on hills, things that you will experience after after your motorcycle safety class and things that you experience, you know, riding a motorcycle.
00;00;44;22 - 00;01;02;14
So that's going to be our primary topic today. And before that, it would be a really good thing to cover because it's something that we both dealt with and any new rider will deal with. And anyone who rides has or will have to. Yeah, so. Oh, I was going to say like just like we can to just back some background about Derek and him asking this question.
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You know, Derek says I'm a new writer, late thirties who completed the two day MSC license waiver course and took a handful of private lessons. As you know, MSF offers their classes in parking lots. So yesterday was the first time I went riding by myself. I live in NYC, but I rented a 650 CC Kawasaki Vulcan in the Jersey suburbs.
00;01;23;23 - 00;01;43;15
I only previously ridden to 50 CC cruisers and this and this felt massive in comparison because yeah, so yeah, basically he just wanted to know how to break out and start doing more and be but also being safe. So, so that's that. And we felt like it would be a really good topic to cover. So we decided to do it.
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And thanks Derek for the suggestion. And if you're listening to this episode because, well, hopefully we'll offer some good advice for you and for anyone else that's starting out to with and riding motorcycles. And on that note, like I like when we get these emails, I just get so excited. I'm like, Yeah, I love it when we get emails from people, like whether they have some feedback or input or just want to see exactly this question at the site.
00;02;06;29 - 00;02;24;19
So we love hearing from you guys. Keep sending, please do. But before we jump at the main topic, once again, we have motorcycle news and this time it's once again not news. But we wrote a couple of new bikes again, courtesy of Eurosport, YouTube courtesy of Eurosport City. So thanks to Will and Morgan out there for setting us up once again.
00;02;24;19 - 00;02;42;16
Everybody there has them. They are all great. And since we are talking about kind of new riders or starting out motorcycling, I think it'd be good to start with the Triumph Trident, which we have mentioned on the podcast before as a kind of a good beginner bike. It is a little bit on the higher end and higher price.
00;02;42;21 - 00;03;04;14
Yeah, but actually going broke is still under ten. K Yeah, which is still I think is a really good price. And the reason why we think it's a good bike for beginners is because of what it does offer for that $10,000 and it is a pull up the specs here real quick. You got those and like but it is going to be on the higher end if you're looking for something.
00;03;04;14 - 00;03;28;13
But at the same time, these bikes, they're retaining their value really Well, yeah. And then the last year, a long time ago honestly. And they're pretty good bikes. Yeah. Yeah. So the Triumph Trident has 81 horsepower, which is more than I expected. A lot more than I expected from a 660 CC engine. It's a triple, just like most of Triumph's are, or their modern line at least £47 feet of torque 600 cc.
00;03;28;13 - 00;04;04;01
It does have show suspension front and back with rear preload, which I thought was really awesome for that price point. Yeah. And what it is and let me pull that away for well that was the one add to rider modes and road and rain. Yeah. Road and Right and I think all of them have that as well. So it does and that kind of as the reason why we thought it was a really good bike is because it does have things like traction control, abs, cornering bass and things like that is because it is a and you don't usually find that kind of stuff on beginner bikes and certainly not for under ten grand, if
00;04;04;01 - 00;04;30;11
you like. Brand new, brand new. And like one thing I noticed when I first got on it to right, it was the seat. It was very approachable. Oh, so. So that would check the box if you're vertically, you know. Yeah, it's just a little bit of a shorter person. I felt a little bit a little bit crass. Yeah, it was more snug, but for like riding around town or taking up some, like, twisties that aren't too far away, I think it's a perfect little bike.
00;04;30;11 - 00;04;56;04
And you're. I mean, I'm six foot and you're 6161. So, I mean, it's it's so if you're that is a little snug fitting into it but like again like for the seat height and like the seat not width but the length length. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it would be really good for pretty much anybody. Yeah. So, and honestly, like, even though I felt a little cramped on it, it was still like such a well-balanced bike.
00;04;56;06 - 00;05;17;09
Like I could put my feet down, I could swing that thing back and forth. It's only £417 dri and that's a great weight. And it was very flexible. It was very flexible. It was kind of narrow. So, you know, you just feel like very planted on it and it just felt really good and Yeah, and just like being like just going back and forth on the road, it just, it just, it felt planted.
00;05;17;10 - 00;05;46;14
Yeah. It was it was reactive and responsive to what you're doing as a writer, but it never felt like it was wobbly or unstable. And, and I wrote it through like a construction zone with gravel riding on accident. Yeah, yeah. The road was closed and it worked. The first thing I kind of like, like, surprised me about is one when I got onto the main road and I gave it some, gave it some throttle and saw it was a pretty good pick me up for a small bike like that.
00;05;46;14 - 00;06;04;06
Yeah, I just wanted to get up and go and it sounds pretty good and it's got a nice little grunt to it and it just, it just wanted to go and a one thing I yes, it does want to go and it's very responsive to that. And you know, for me being like 200 something pounds. Yeah. It carried me pretty sad.
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Same here. And what makes it so much fun, even like for as an approachable and safe bike to get used to but still like ring through it is I will I complained about it before we were talking about was the how short the gears were. Yeah the gears are pretty short I will say that. But at the same time that lets you like rev it out and run it through.
00;06;20;22 - 00;06;34;10
But it's not going to get away from. It's got still pretty high redline. Yeah. You can really, you can really ride it out which I think is fun. Can be also really fun. Yeah. But yeah, but for me it was just good that you can do all that stuff and you can test yourself and practice and get better.
00;06;34;10 - 00;06;55;10
But the bike is never going to get away from you because of Nope. So I think it's a very safe asset, especially if you're I think if you're like a shorter or smaller person that wants to get into motorcycling or just wants like a second bike for riding around town, I think this is a perfect little bike, and especially with it coming in under ten grand, it's awesome.
00;06;55;10 - 00;07;16;29
Yeah, yeah. It's got all the all the features you like more than enough features you expect at that price point, which I thought was really nice and I just thought it was a fun little bike to ride. Like, it just felt good. No, I just felt like a really good bike to ride. So I think it is a great beginner bike or second bike for somebody who needs something smaller, you know, maybe don't want to have a heavy bike around town and stuff.
00;07;16;29 - 00;07;34;10
Exactly. You have a GC maybe on something. Yeah. So smaller. Yeah. So I just write to the coffee shop. Yeah. You know. Yes. I think it'd be a great little thing. And then like when you are ready to get something bigger or for whatever reason, if you're going to sell it like again the, the resale value is really high on those.
00;07;34;12 - 00;08;04;29
That's also always nice to have. Yeah. So and then the second bike we rode is a complete opposite of a beginner bike and should not be touched by beginners. And that is the brand new 2023 Ducati Diavel V4 And this bike was an absolute monster of a bike to ride and was completely opposite. And this is a fast and a little bit of a scary bike at times because it launches really, really fast is let me pull up the notes here and a picture of it to be.
00;08;05;01 - 00;08;28;00
Oh yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Let me pull up the here's a picture of the trident for anyone that's watching this on YouTube. Those are listening. You'll have to buy New York yourself. But it's a it's a very good looking bike. Yeah. We didn't mention how good it looks. Yeah, Yeah. So. So it looks. It just kind of has this kind of, like, not it's almost like a little modern retro look with the round headlight and stuff to it.
00;08;28;01 - 00;08;48;11
Yeah, a little bit, but not like a retro classic. Like, not a modern, classic. Look. Yeah, but the profile definitely gives off street triple. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And I think it's a fantastic looking little bike. I think. No, I was very, I was very pleased with it. Like I even considered actually, maybe I'll add this to my list for like a second bike, but Yeah, but you know, we'll see.
00;08;48;13 - 00;09;11;17
So and back to the diavel. This is what you're doing? Yeah. Yep. Oh, and this bike, even though in the picture you can't really it doesn't really look like it, It is kind of massive and it's a big bike. Yeah. You feel it? Remind me a lot of the rocket, the Triumph rocket a little bit from because it has this, like, massive fuel tank in the front and it just feels like very commanding.
00;09;11;17 - 00;09;31;14
Yeah. There it is considered as a muscle cruiser. Yeah, I think it's classified as that, but it doesn't feel like a cruiser. And I don't think I've really ridden the muscle cruiser. I don't know if the I think the the Rocket three I don't know if that's a muscle cruiser. I think it might qualify. Yeah, sure. What what the standard is the criteria.
00;09;31;16 - 00;09;58;03
But no, it was it was very fast, just in the regular mode. It was Boy that torque could just throw. Yeah, it was awesome. So it has an 1156 or 58 CC engine, 168 horsepower, which is two short of the multistrada and £93 of torque. And this is the most important spec that it has according to Ducati. It has in fact have two seats.
00;09;58;10 - 00;10;30;18
Yeah, in case anyone's wondering, it is a two seat, it is a two seater. And the really cool thing is that this differs from Ducati that they have not the ones that are found on like the Streetfighter or the Pentagon, they are Panigale Benegal. Exactly. Which are, they're like high output race engines. Basically. It's a kind of a variant of this, but the ones that are found on the Multistrada and on the Diavel, they have really long service intervals, a whopping 36,000 miles between valve checks, valve adjustments.
00;10;30;18 - 00;10;49;27
And I think that is phenomenal, even though it's a really expensive bike upfront, that is a lot of like maintenance you're saving by such a long interval like I was. I still haven't ridden the multistrada, but like after hearing about that service interval length, like I'm just like, boy, if I'm going to start seriously cruising, All right, that's a touring.
00;10;49;27 - 00;11;04;27
I'm like, I think I would look at that. Like, I don't think I would get like a rally type one, like an off road one. Like for, like a road bike. Yeah, I if I was going to do like some like if I was going to give up everything and Yeah, well country or the world I would probably or by road I would yeah.
00;11;04;29 - 00;11;33;29
I would strongly consider probably get the multistrada. Yeah. I mean because that's, that's a really long service interval. I'm not sure what other kind of maintenance and stuff you need to do so I'm not sure how easy it is to change like the coolant or the oil and stuff on it, because Ducati is known for having some weird core services and having batteries or air filters and weird places, but on only, you know, just helps with a bike like a Ducati or any any European bike really.
00;11;33;29 - 00;11;52;11
Is that like, you know, because service is going to be expensive. Yeah, but if you can stretch out the length like they have, like that's probably not going to be, that's going to help a lot. Yeah. Because compared to other adventure bikes, big adventure bikes, the what Your tigers. What. Well my tigers. Only 12,000 miles. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00;11;52;11 - 00;12;18;12
But the big tiger 1200 is 20,000 miles, which is a little bit better. Yeah. Yeah. I wish mine was that. And I know how you can fix that. So. Good. Tigers. $100. Don't tempt me. And I think the GTS is like 12,000 miles as well. So for a big bike, that's not a whole lot. But going back to the diavel since I were talking about yeah, it has the same, the same service intervals as the Multistrada, which is 36,000 miles.
00;12;18;12 - 00;12;37;26
And this bike is I mean it's, it's a bit of a cruiser, it's a bit of a touring bike, even though it's a really high speed, very fast bike. You can use it. I did find the seat on that super comfortable. It was very good. Does not look like it would be, but it's very comfortable. It's very contoured and just the seating position, the riding position, it did feel like really nice.
00;12;37;27 - 00;12;59;14
It did feel very nice and I really like that. And for me, because I you know, I took it down that one road near there, so I came to like it to the dead end. Yeah. And I was just doing the slow speed stuff and again, it just felt good. Yeah, I think so too. And it's got all of I mean, this is a 20 plus thousand dollar bike, so it's got all this, all the features you would think you would have from your bike.
00;12;59;14 - 00;13;20;02
Fully adjustable suspension, various riding modes. It's got a ton of riding modes. Yeah. You know LED headlights and I really like and I remember Morgan explaining us what they did with the handlebar on it. It's kind of like connected and internally wired and stuff. Oh right, right, right. Yeah. So it's got a really cool handlebar. It's not like a standard one that's like bolted on.
00;13;20;05 - 00;13;36;19
Yeah, it's kind of got their own fancy stuff going on there and it's really cool. I premium bike like goes and I also really like the exhaust on that. Oh yeah at the back It just looks really, really cool. How much did he have. Did Morgan say like the Alex the, the aftermarket exhaust. I think it's like a grand Yeah.
00;13;36;25 - 00;13;58;06
So much money but the aftermarket exhaust is also look really cool. No it does. Yeah. Yeah. But and despite it sounded great and like we said earlier, it was really fast. I remember when I was heading back towards the dealership and I put it in sport mode and I switched from urban, which is like their normal mode into sport and gave it some gas.
00;13;58;08 - 00;14;14;24
My God, it just, it kicked me back. Yeah. And I whipped back. I had a little bit of whiplash back in the seat and I'm just like, Holy shit, this is just crawling. I actually couldn't figure out, even though, you know, Morgan showed me how to switch the mode, I couldn't get it to do it. And then I had it.
00;14;14;24 - 00;14;32;07
Like I did finally figure it out when I was like halfway back to the dealership. So I'll admit I turned around in like, I went back, and then I turned around again. I had to get a taste for that sport, and that's still amazing. It's such a big difference between the regular urban mode. Yeah, it just lunges you forward all it was.
00;14;32;14 - 00;14;52;10
I mean, yeah, it was. It was pretty. It was. It was all lights. It was really a ride. And I think it also looks really good. I especially like how the back wheel on it looks. Yeah, it's, it's fat, it's a big back tire and it's really cool. I mean probably like almost like a tiny little economy car wheel in the back, just like the Triumph rocket.
00;14;52;10 - 00;15;09;29
Yeah, the rocket. Yeah, it's got a massive back wheel. But overall, yeah, I really enjoyed riding my bike and I found it. I mean, it's pretty sweet. I don't know if it's a bike I would buy personally just because I don't think I have a need for that kind of specific bike. But I really enjoyed riding it. Yeah, and I would say I thoroughly enjoyed it.
00;15;09;29 - 00;15;29;17
I think if someone, you know, wants to do cardio, they want that super cruiser muscle and muscle mass of muscle. So I think it's really cool, really awesome. I think so too. Yeah. So shall we move on? I think so. I think we've I think we've rambled enough. I think we have some bikes. If you have a dealership, go check them out.
00;15;29;20 - 00;15;47;19
Yeah, and once again, thanks to your sports team it for I am. Take those out for a spin. Yeah well, I'm definitely getting a second bike. Like, I'm not replacing my scrambler, but I'm getting a second bike. Hopefully within the next year or so. And I'm definitely getting it from your sports. Oh. Hundred percent on and Yeah, and yeah, I would.
00;15;47;21 - 00;16;16;03
I just want something. Yeah, I want. I want something lower to the ground. Yeah, I love my scrambler, but it's a big bike. It is. All right, so the post motorcycle safety experience. Yeah, I guess we'll start with you. So when you got done and just for a little bit of background for our listeners, I got my motorcycle endorsement and completed MSF course about a year before I actually bought my first bike.
00;16;16;03 - 00;16;36;27
Okay, Yeah. So I completed in June 2019. I got my bike in May of 2020. Yeah. And by you, you guy. Yes, I, I when I decided I was going to get into riding and I had spent before I even took the MSC, I watched hours of YouTube videos on motorcycles like Dan Down, the Fireman, Yami Nube. Those are two brothers.
00;16;36;27 - 00;16;54;25
So the guy who I rode some Triumph's or something in California in the back of Brother. So yeah, I watch their stuff. That's the channel that got me into motorcycles. I was just like, I want to do that in the future. Yeah. So, you know, leading into so premiums, it was like a lot of YouTube watching videos, research and stuff like that, what to expect and MSF.
00;16;54;26 - 00;17;12;24
Yeah. And then I it was March of 2020. It was actually right as COVID was announced. Yeah, we hadn't done the lockdown yet. I did the myself and then, and then we went to lockdown. Oh, but I remember like I saw somebody who was also there for the class and I was like, Oh, it was nice to meet you.
00;17;12;24 - 00;17;30;16
I and just instinctively went to shake their hand and they were like, Oh no, It's like, Yeah, oh yeah. Virus time. Yep. You know, But yes, it was a two Yeah. Two day event for me. So same here. Just over the weekend. Yeah, just over the weekend. And I, I made it through that. I actually thought I failed the test.
00;17;30;22 - 00;17;52;07
I was positive. I, they told me I failed the one for like the sixth. Sixth or that. Yeah. The unlimited endorsement. Oh yeah. So but then the guy just marked it off for me so. Yeah. But we, but after that I, it was that day. Oh wait, no, no, no. I apologize. Leading up to the MSF, I went and bought my own helmet cause I didn't look aware.
00;17;52;09 - 00;18;16;20
Smart. Yeah, I wanted my own, so I bought my first helmet, then did the MSF and then, like, the day I got the little card for passing. Yeah, I went to cycle gear and I bought gloves and a jacket. Very cool. Yeah. So the day I finished MSF. Yeah. And then in May, once I had saved and got articles, nice little stipend or stimulus checks, and it was like that's how I used to get my bike too.
00;18;16;20 - 00;18;34;23
Yeah. So then I went and got my first, my rebel and I, they asked me if I wanted to write it home from the dealership and I said, no, I don't feel comfortable. So I had them and they were nice enough to deliver. Oh that's, that's very nice. Yeah I, I had my friend like we borrowed his dad's trailer.
00;18;34;23 - 00;18;54;23
Oh call the back up here because I buy mine in Salt Lake and I was definitely not comfortable with riding on the freeway back to where I live and it's about like 30 minute bus ride. And I'm like, I know I can't do like 80 miles an hour. I was nowhere near prepared to do that. God, no. It took me probably maybe like a few weeks before I rode in the freeway.
00;18;54;26 - 00;19;16;14
It took me a I feel like I was a while for me. I was I could look at my photos and actually determined, you know, like for when I did get my bike, I was working remote and I texted my boss, my bike showed up, was like, Hey, I'm taking off for the day. So smart, very nice. And in the neighborhood there's like a giant church parking lot Again, if, you know, if you're in Utah, you know, there's a church everywhere.
00;19;16;14 - 00;19;49;12
Yeah. So I just very carefully wrote it through the neighborhood to the church parking lot and started doing the MSN stuff around. But so let's so talk to me about what it felt like when you finally moved away from the neighborhood. Yeah, it's like the big city streets and then eventually the highway and Yeah, so and that was I think I mentioned it in our previous episode that the first time I actually got out of the neighborhood, I rode to, to a coffee shop they like and I met some of the writers there.
00;19;49;13 - 00;20;08;21
Yeah. You know, And so that and that was nerve wracking. I will be I was very nervous and part of it and we as brought up in Derek's email, a lot of it getting that coffee shop sits at the mouth of big Cottonwood. Yeah, there's a hill. You have to go up pretty small. Yeah, it's like a hill all the way up.
00;20;08;23 - 00;20;30;01
And that's when I was one of Derek's questions is like, and I stopped for a hill start. I stalled twice. I saw. Easier to stall. Yeah, I still saw plenty. Especially if I get on the bike that I haven't really before. Yeah, because I. I'm still trying to figure out where, like, the frictions of friction and some bikes have a much smaller one than others, so it can be a little tricky, like trying a new bike and figuring that out.
00;20;30;03 - 00;20;45;03
But no, I think I can't rule what I know. I went during the middle of the day. I think it might have been a weekday, so I honestly just don't remember when. But I remember that I made a point to go like when I figured traffic wouldn't be as big of an issue says so, and then the roads were okay.
00;20;45;03 - 00;21;01;11
There were some cars, obviously. Yeah, it wasn't too bad. But no, I just took everything that we were taught in the myself. And from then, then the fireman's videos of just like head check everywhere. I'm aware of everything behind me. Yeah. You know, it took, it just takes practice. It really does. But you have to get out and do it.
00;21;01;14 - 00;21;23;28
Just you have to mitigate your risk, you know? Yeah. And accept it. Accepted. Like, Hey, I'm going on the road, I am going to practice and get better. But in terms of like figuring out your friction zone and going up and down hills like because obviously I didn't become a master of like, yeah, not stalling over one day as I was posts of myself getting better.
00;21;24;00 - 00;21;45;23
I would just like rock the bike back and forth with the friction zone. Yeah, stoplights. So I was like, okay, here's a really good feel for it. And even on a hill, you know, like, okay, it needs a little bit more gas. Just find the friction. So because you can feel like it doesn't have quite enough power to move the bike when you're on an incline, but you can feel you can feel a little bit engagement and start giving it some gas and you know, it starts going for it just, you know, yeah, I just take some practice.
00;21;45;23 - 00;22;03;20
So for those that are new to motorcycling, hill starts are probably it's like if you grew up driving like a manual car or if you drive a manual car, you all know what it feels like to start on the hill. You get that little feeling of rolling back sometimes, which can be a little bit nerve wracking, especially, especially used to it, especially on the bike, because those aren't supposed to go backwards.
00;22;03;20 - 00;22;23;18
Yeah, but just like in the car, you know. But yeah, like Mitch mentioned, you have to kind of give a figure out where your friction zone is, figure out where the bike or that clutch is, like starting of the bike Once the large forward, like move forward a little bit, but if you're feel it rolling back, give it some gas.
00;22;23;24 - 00;22;47;05
Motorcycles have a wet clutch for most most motorcycles have a wet clutch. So you're not going to you're not going to destroy it. Yeah. Yeah. You're not going to destroy it by like rubbing it with the clutch, you know, with or not fully. Yeah. Fully disengage in stuff. So yeah, you'll be fine. And as long as you're not doing it, like for the longest period in the arsenal, you're not going to burn out your clutch.
00;22;47;05 - 00;23;05;28
You know, you'll be okay. And I just wanted to say to glove that it was like, you know, for me, you can find them like. Like pull in areas, driveways like my driveways as a slight incline. And I would I would practice that too. I would like I'd walk out with the clutch. That's it. And I roll it up with the friction zone and then I pull it in and roll back down.
00;23;06;04 - 00;23;22;14
I just sort of another good spot. If you find an empty parking lot. Speed bumps. Yeah, you just park it up on like the end of a speed bump and then feel because you'll feel a roll back. Yeah. And yeah, and you're close to the ground. So, you know, eventually even out. So I don't think that's a bad idea either.
00;23;22;14 - 00;23;45;08
No. Honestly, on empty parking all is speed bumps. Yeah. Just let it roll back and forth And like, like I said, you're on a kill the clutch. No. Yeah. And, but yeah, in terms of like getting out on the roads and stuff. Yeah. It did take me a while to. I was going to ask you the same thing, but like I'll tell my first my freeway experience said go out after I was going to ask you what you do.
00;23;45;10 - 00;24;03;17
So yeah, for I didn't, I didn't practice as much as I should have probably before going out. But the first day I brought my bike home, I basically rode out. I mean, I live in a pretty suburban area and all the roads here are just straight. There's no there's barely any twisties around here except for like a couple of trains and stuff.
00;24;03;17 - 00;24;21;25
So I just kind of wrote a nice, calm speed. It was it was a Saturday, I think it was a Saturday, so it wasn't like super busy outside, which is kind of nice, but I basically just like rode out and then kind of rode through the neighborhoods at lower speeds, practicing. And it gave me a pretty good opportunity to practice.
00;24;21;28 - 00;24;47;15
So speed maneuvers and just, just stopping and going, basically just using the clutch. So shifting from first to second gear, which on the CD, 500 x is like it's like in 2 seconds. Yeah, it's like you hit 50 miles an hour if you're shifting gears. Yeah. So you really have to, like, play around with the whole lot. And I think then and there's not too many, like, Big hills around where I live.
00;24;47;15 - 00;25;00;20
It's pretty flat. Yeah. Here, Out here? Yeah. Yeah. Unless I go closer to the mountains. Well, there's, like, the ramp, like the road I take to get to your house. There's like, that. That's true. Yeah. I didn't go on that because that was a little too scary. It's kind of a it's a bigger road. Yeah. With big intersection.
00;25;00;22 - 00;25;18;23
Yeah, but over time I kind of. And I think, I think it was like a like either a weekend after I, or maybe even the next day I took the bike on a slightly longer ride. It was still through the neighborhoods, but I wanted kind of higher speed roads and in the sun, so it wasn't as busy. Yeah, outside there.
00;25;18;23 - 00;25;34;15
So mostly straight roads. But I did end up riding a little bit north of my house. There was a couple of places where it's more hilly and I remember there was like it was like a slight hill and I was just I just stopped on it. There was no one around, so I kind of just did the rocking back and forth to see where it's going.
00;25;34;20 - 00;25;49;27
And then there also clicked for me. I was like, Wait a minute, I have two breaks. Yeah, I have the front and the back break. I'm like in a car where I have to use the same foot for both the gas and the brake. Yeah, I'm like, Hold on, I can hold. I can give it some gas, hold the clutch in and have the break.
00;25;49;27 - 00;26;05;21
I applied at the same time. So that's what I did. I put only one foot down. I pressed, held the back brake and then just kind of felt in and slowly let go of the brake too. That's exactly what I was going to say is if you hold the like just not not like Janet close, but just enough to like light pressure on the rear brake.
00;26;05;21 - 00;26;26;02
And then like as you start to give it gas, start to release it. And if you're not moving, give it more gas. And when you just Yeah, just start moving. And that's, that's what I did. And then I got on to, if you're familiar with Utah, the 89 which has a bit higher speed limits and I think the spa where I was riding was about 55 miles an hour and I decided to go on, man, that's 55.
00;26;26;05 - 00;26;44;25
Yeah, so fast. It reminded me of when I first got my driver's license and went on like a 45 mile an hour road. And I was like, You're moving so fast. I'm just like, Oh, this is like, Oh, man, this little shake is a little scary. Oh, boy, I'm doing this. I could join Formula One. Yeah. So and it did feel a little bit scary.
00;26;44;25 - 00;27;01;03
Luckily, it wasn't like it doesn't go for too long before the speeding slows down. And then I kind of veered off that to to get home back on the slower streets and stuff. So I was kind of like my very first experience. But once again, like I was like, this was almost a year after I took my MSF class.
00;27;01;04 - 00;27;16;20
I had to kind of like almost reteach myself what I remember from that and see, that's why I like jumped into the me. It is like I didn't want to like lose the exposure. So, I mean, like after the MSF takes, you know, you have to take the, the state test to with a written test. Yeah. So I made sure to do that like within a week.
00;27;16;23 - 00;27;32;13
Oh yeah. I did my like yeah, I did that myself and I think I did my written test like the day after I said, Yeah, yeah. Just to get my endorsement out of the way because I don't have to worry about on that. Yeah. No for me about the freeway experience. So yeah guys this was, it was like it was nuts.
00;27;32;13 - 00;27;54;27
I was like, so nervous. I was going to go up to my parents house and I live like 45 minutes away or so and I was just, I was nervous as all get out was like, okay, let's f myself off. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. My little 500 rebel, you know, And I just like I hopped on and I remember getting on the the on ramp and it was a Sunday morning.
00;27;54;29 - 00;28;14;16
The roads were empty. The highway the freeway was empty. The nice thing about Utah on Sundays is there's no people yelling about. Yeah, like if you go early enough, you go early enough. And so, like, I had the freeway to myself for, like, at least, like a few miles. Yeah. I went on the on ramp and I just done that little engine as hard as I could to get up to speed.
00;28;14;16 - 00;28;33;22
Yeah, you know, until I got on there, I'm just like, oh, I'm like, losing sleep. It just. It was such an adrenaline rush. And I'm not an adrenaline junkie. I, I'm very much like, if I'm going to do stuff like with motorcycling, I was very much like, like, okay, like I accept what I'm about to do. It's a risk and I've done my best to prepare myself for it.
00;28;33;24 - 00;28;51;08
I'm a little bit of an adrenaline junkie. You know? I mean, I guess I kind of now I am, but not like. But you won't catch me, like flinging a bike at 90 miles an hour to a canyon. Yeah. Or, you know, running from the police or, you know, definitely not Our last part. I will say I've gone through Canyon probably a little bit faster than I should have before.
00;28;51;11 - 00;29;10;20
Oh, sure, we all do. But. But like, I'm not like that. I don't live for that. Like, you know, like some people do and speed jump up. Yeah. You know, so, like, so it's that just gives you an ideas like, you don't have to be that person to, like, get out riding more. Oh, yeah. You know, so I'm guessing people would know that, but I just wanted to like, we hope encourage.
00;29;10;24 - 00;29;28;23
Yeah. And last thing I want to say to it really got me helping. And if it's possible for you guys to do it, meet other writers because like I mentioned that those people I met at the coffee shop. Yeah. For my first time getting out, you know, like, they invited me on some more rides and they actually took me on my first canyon ride up little Cottonwood Canyon.
00;29;28;23 - 00;29;43;09
That's fun. And I was nervous as all hell. Yeah. You know, I was like, Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I'm going to a canyon. I got to go fast and around corners I deal with cars. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that would. The plus those canyons near your place are they're pretty narrow. They are a lot of sponsor's blind corners and everything like that.
00;29;43;09 - 00;30;07;20
So. Yeah. And hills. I'm going hills downhills. I have to do like lean and, you know, go through curves like, you know, at angles going up and down the hill. I think it was maybe a week or two after I bought my bike, my first bike, I rode through Ogden Canyon, which is also lots of blind corners, not as uphill as the cottonwoods, but lots of blind corners, pretty narrow in spots.
00;30;07;20 - 00;30;26;23
And I was taking it like nice and slow. I think it was also a Sunday, so I wasn't like too busy. Yeah, that day. And then I went up to trappers just around snow base. And it's for those not in Utah unfamiliar. Yeah, it's basically a road that goes like through the mountains. So at least one of the big ski resorts around here.
00;30;26;29 - 00;30;48;02
Yeah. And I rode through that and it was and that's when I felt like, like that whole experience, like, solidified that I made the right decision by motorcycle because it felt completely different. It's a road that I've driven hundreds of times before over the mountains, but it felt like a whole new road on a motorcycle because I don't have anything around me.
00;30;48;09 - 00;31;09;06
And I just got like this sense of awe. Yeah, just looking over the landscape, it was still bright green because it's still springtime. And I was just like, Damn, this is this is absolutely beautiful. So I rode up there and then I dropped down on the other side of the mountain. And this is pretty high speed rose 55 miles an hour, and then the second half of it is all downhill.
00;31;09;06 - 00;31;30;27
So I kind of just let the bike, like, cruise down. And I decided, like, you know what, I'm going I can try to the highway here. So I got on the highway and this is a more rural area compared to driving from Salt Lake to to here, which as it was for you. So this was a much I think my experience was a little bit less nerve wracking because it was in less cars.
00;31;30;27 - 00;31;52;03
There was only two lanes going in each direction. So I rode out to the neighboring town. I was just like, Wow, this is fast. Yeah, this feels way faster on the motorcycle than it does in the car. Yeah, I remember like, I was probably, like, holding onto the handlebars a little tighter than I should of. Yeah. And I was just like, Oh, my hands feel like they're like, like getting tired of all that.
00;31;52;03 - 00;32;17;06
Yeah. And it was just such a different experience and I didn't think it was like, I wasn't like super nervous, but I was still like, very, very cautious about how fast I was going. Yeah, especially, especially on the way back. I took the freeway back, like, towards my house and it's pretty twisty part because it goes through a canyon and, you know, hitting, hitting those turns at like 65 miles an hour.
00;32;17;06 - 00;32;38;09
I was just like for, okay, yeah, I know this is and I was I mean, it was it was a law. It was like a it wasn't like scary scary, but it was a little like it's a tiny bit nerve wracking. Oh, yeah. It's it's a new experience. You're you're expanding. You're, you're pushing your limits, your boundaries. You know, one thing I remember, I just want to know what you were saying.
00;32;38;09 - 00;32;56;26
That was like I remembered of how much more resistance there was in the bike for counter steering going up. Going? Yeah, exactly. I really had to, like, push. Yeah, like a quite a bit more than lower. Yeah. So it was just like, you know, you just got to be ready to, like, not fight the bike, but you got to be, you got to be ready to put in more effort.
00;32;56;26 - 00;33;13;13
Let it know what you want to do. Exactly. Yeah, I agree. Because I remember going around there, there a curb taking like the freeway up to you. I'm like, or to my parents house and circles by to here. But like it would come on the left curve on the freeway. Yeah. And it was had like a little slightly bump with like a lot of tips.
00;33;13;13 - 00;33;38;10
It was like it was kind of violent, but it wasn't pushing it hard enough. And so I, I really had I started to drift out of the lane. So I had to, like, lean more and push. Especially since your first bike was a cruiser. Yeah. And it had those road tires. So. Yeah. And I guess that's another good point to bring up is a very much depends on your bike because Derek here he was saying that he was on a he rented a Kawasaki 650 right.
00;33;38;10 - 00;33;58;03
Yeah. Yeah. That's a pretty beefy bike. That's a big that's tall. Yeah. Oh no. Oh no, no, you're right. No that's a volt gassing in the versus the Vulcan. Yeah. The Vulcan is a pretty like it's a cruiser. It's a cruiser. Slow to the ground, but it is it can be on the heavier side is and certain bikes require a bit more effort to to push around.
00;33;58;05 - 00;34;13;10
I mean if you're out on like a ninja or something's going to walk around, you're going to be flicking that thing back and forth. But if you're on like a Harley or a Vulcan or something beefier, you're going to you're going to put in a little bit more effort to turn it. It's like driving a combat car versus like a giant SUV.
00;34;13;10 - 00;34;30;29
Yeah, or something like that. And that's like that. That just made me remember what I was thinking of. Like as we're preparing for the episode leading up, you know, since we were ahead or. Yeah, we are. But one thing that really helped me be more confident in the bike too. I just did the t clocks, all of it.
00;34;31;02 - 00;34;47;15
It's run through everything. Like, very smart, you know, I will admit I don't do it as much now, but nowadays all I do is like, I just do the basics. I like brakes. Tire pressure. Yeah, tire pressure and all that stuff, you know? And I'm like, that's all I do now. But back then, I was like, running through it.
00;34;47;15 - 00;35;14;24
It's like everything's good, you know? And just having that, yeah, there's that. But, and so just running that, running through that just gave me more confidence in the bike. And it also gave me confidence in myself. Like as a writer, I'm doing everything I need to do to better together. So, so one of the things, one of the other things David or sorry Derek had questions about was riding between Traffic.
00;35;14;24 - 00;35;36;13
So like he said, it was a little scary and stuff to me too. I can't imagine around cars and stuff. Even Jersey, Jersey, New Jersey suburbs. But he said in NYC, right? Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, so they yeah, he was talking about how, you know, to start back up with our rolling back and stuff which we also talked about.
00;35;36;13 - 00;36;04;07
But then on but let's, let's talk about the traffic. Yeah. So we've, we've gone Yeah. We can go after traffic so traffic is probably one of this thing that still makes me the most nervous is I mean a car will always win over a motorcycle. Yeah. The event of an accident. Cause that's just the way it is. I guess it's because of the way that it is.
00;36;04;10 - 00;36;32;20
Just the way the wind blows, you know? So you have to be very, very vigilant. Yeah. Riding. Driving and riding around other cars and stuff is because as such, you have to be careful of motorcycle, especially here in the States. I feel like people maybe except for California, where it's maybe like filtering weather's nice, you get more riders, but depending on where you live, motorcycling is mostly a hobby.
00;36;32;23 - 00;36;59;18
It is not a primary mode of transportation for the states. For the states, Yeah. If you live in like Southeast Asia, Europe and stuff, you have plenty more. Yeah, places. Especially like when I lived in Italy. I remember like there's so many scooters everywhere, especially like in Italy. Everyone had those. I think people land of Vespas. Yeah, I think people are just like expecting awe and looking for I'm a bit more buy here in the States and that's where most of our audiences is here in the States.
00;36;59;18 - 00;37;27;19
So it's not a primary mode of transportation for most. It's recreational, it's recreational. So a lot of drivers aren't really aware and aren't really looking for other motorcycles. No matter how many PR campaigns, local police departments and states put out. Yeah, they're not looking for you and the advice you always hear and we've always heard online is basically like drive like everyone or ride your bike like everyone's trying to kill you.
00;37;27;19 - 00;37;44;17
Yep. And that is a very good advice to, to, to go by is because it's kind of true. Yeah. I mean, you know, Yeah. You just, you, you assume that role that they're trying to kill you and you know, it's just more of like and another way to look at it is like Right. As if you are invisible.
00;37;44;17 - 00;38;08;28
Yeah. Yeah. Imagine. Just like, just get it in your head that these any writer, even if they're making even if they look like they're making eye contact with you, they can't see, they might not see you. Yeah. I just assume that they can't. Yeah. And that's a very good thing to assume. And so whenever I ride through traffic, even the areas around my house that I know very well, I'm always scanning and looking out for cars, pulling out of driveways, cars making left turns right, turns wherever they are.
00;38;08;29 - 00;38;32;04
Three sixties of awareness. Yeah, yeah. Especially at the light. Always checking my mirrors to see what's going on behind me. If I stop at a stoplight, I make sure to. We have lane filter in here in Utah, which is pretty nice, but it's also not on all roads. Yeah, and sometimes, you know, you might not have enough room to filter or something prevents you from filtering, but I always make sure to kind of stop not directly behind the car, but almost like on the line.
00;38;32;04 - 00;38;47;08
So I'm in between cars that way. If I do happen to get rear end there, if something were to happen behind me, at least it's like striking to you and not pin you. Yeah, at least I'm not getting smashed into the car in front of me. Yeah. So always kind of like offset yourself between cars instead of being directly.
00;38;47;08 - 00;39;08;00
And it's just stuff like. Yeah, it's just stuff like that. Right. That just puts your mind at ease of like, Yeah. What, what's around you, What's going on. What's, what's, what's out, What could happen, what's out of your control. Yeah. Basically be aware of what's around you. Be aware of your surroundings. Yeah. Every time I pull up to a stop sign or a stoplight and I know there's cars behind me, I don't put a median immediately neutral.
00;39;08;00 - 00;39;30;00
I still keep my clutch in my hand on the brake and the gas just in case. I don't see that car stopping or something happens and I need to quickly like get out of the way. Yeah, if the light's been on for a while and everyone's mostly stopped and I might flip into neutral and stuff, or by that time it might be green, but I think it's that's the most important thing, especially riding around traffic.
00;39;30;00 - 00;39;49;04
Yeah, Yeah. Especially in like cities and stuff, is that you have to be paying attention and like you said, pretend to be invisible. Yeah, just like. But just accept that that's your reality when you're on the bike that you are invisible. These people, you know, and boy and I, you know, if I wanted to take this somewhere negative, I, we could probably do a whole episode of me ranting about drivers.
00;39;49;04 - 00;40;09;07
Yeah. I was like, I don't want to do that. But Oh, yeah, there's lots of there's lots of things. Drivers, I've seen drivers do that on your plane, stupid. But that's the reality we live in. And unfortunately motorcycle riders aren't the majority, you know, and 49 if you guys haven't seen the YouTube channel 49, he does a thing about unintentional blindness.
00;40;09;07 - 00;40;27;06
And so it's actually like a physiological thing I guess. Yeah. You're it's how your your brain basically it's taking frames like a seeing snapshots like a camera. And it just so happens at the speed that you're moving in a car, it's very easy for your brain to actually not catch a motorcyclist something the size of a motorcycle between those frames.
00;40;27;07 - 00;40;44;27
Exactly. But your brain, so much smaller subject, it's harder to see. Yeah. No matter how many lights you have on it. And if you do have a bike that doesn't have which pretty much every bike nowadays has automatic headlights or headlights that are always on, you can't even turn it off if you have an older bike or like you restored a bike, just please keep the light on.
00;40;44;29 - 00;41;02;12
There's no reason to just to have it off because it, it does it does help out. Yeah. It makes you way more visible. And one thing to add on, like I'm speaking of being invisible, like if you're riding down a road and you see a car that wants to pull out, you know, and you're not sure if they see you, Yeah, just assume they don't.
00;41;02;13 - 00;41;19;04
Just assume they don't like. What you can do is to, like, disrupt, like the pattern of what a brain is capturing, just rocking your bike back and forth slightly. It doesn't have to be extreme. You could just do little things like this and that light. The theory is hopefully that that light moving this way or calls cars are going this way.
00;41;19;05 - 00;41;33;29
Yeah, that will create a new pattern that a driver will hopefully see. That's a good suggestion. You know. So you've seen the movement. Yeah. Yeah. So if you see me on rides when we're on, if I'm in front, I'm always doing a little swivel. Can I always do a behind you too, in case you don't see me or you?
00;41;34;01 - 00;41;52;26
And one of the things I also do is, especially if I'm riding through a city and stuff and I see cars getting ready to pull out or make a turn and stuff, always make sure to. I hover at least two fingers over the clutch and the front brake because just in case something were to happen, I can quickly just grab those things.
00;41;52;26 - 00;42;18;13
Yeah. And slow myself down. And I think that's another good point is always practice, practice, practice, braking, practice swerving out of the way. Any of those things at least like once a month. Do you remember. So was it I think it's 2021. We had like when you're a sport person, here's where you know, the place we talk about, they put on like a MSF refresher course.
00;42;18;13 - 00;42;38;22
Oh yeah, yeah, I do remember that. That was really cool because one thing that there was one maneuver that we learned that was not in the MSF or at least in mine, was the it was an emergency braking strike, stopping coming to a stop and then immediately taking off left to right, because I think my MSF did they maybe I can't remember because I remember for me that was like eye opening.
00;42;38;22 - 00;42;55;27
So that's like, you know, the emergency braking maneuver, you know, he has you guys if you've done it yet, it only really focuses on making the stop it doesn't talk about are quickly quickly getting out of the way again you know because like how often could it be that oh you have to emergency brake but then the car behind you is approaching because they have more weight.
00;42;55;27 - 00;43;21;21
They can't stop as quick as you. Okay. Now that makes sense. I think that's a very good point of. Yeah, practicing maneuvers. Yeah. And I think we covered most of the things that I think will hopefully mean. Yeah. So it's generic. And for anyone else that had similar questions. But yeah, you know, for me I was going to say to Derek and to anybody who is interested in, you know, wanting to or just get some advice from, you know, because we're still fairly new riders in three years or three times.
00;43;21;23 - 00;43;49;10
Yeah. You know, so it's like, but yeah, you just kind of have to just get out there and do it, you know? And maybe if you want to get out more, but you're still having that trouble of stalling, well then that's what you should practice first. Yeah. Practice working that clutch and good advice. And one thing I that freaked me out and I learned the hard way, and luckily nothing happened to me, but I had to memorize the start up procedure on my bike.
00;43;49;13 - 00;44;05;17
Really was like clutch, you know, for a triumph for clutch. Oh, that's right. Because sometimes they have to be special. Yeah, well, even on my Honda, you know, because, like, they had the ignition switch and I remember like the first few times, just instinctively, I would just kill the ignition switch and they stalled. So I turn the bike completely off.
00;44;05;17 - 00;44;31;02
So I'd have to then turn it back on and then hit it. Yeah. So I just get like, just memorize your bike's controls for starting. So if you stall, it's a real quick. Just hit that ignition again. And I think if you, for example, get a new bike or upgrade to a different bike or just trying a different bike, just take a minute to familiarize yourself with the controls before you start riding, because you don't want to be like, look at, oh, where's the blinker, Where's the headlight?
00;44;31;02 - 00;44;50;24
Where's the change? The riding mode in the middle of the ride, right? Or so you're like, give your full attention to the road. Yeah. Just know your bike. Yeah. Know your bike before you take it out somewhere. Somewhere big. Yeah. And figure out. And if it isn't your bike, and I'll figure out the friction zone. Figure out just how it feels.
00;44;50;26 - 00;45;13;28
Start off slow. Yeah, it was. No, there's a whole world out there. You should expand yourself and get out there on your bike. But, yeah, you just, you know, I hope. I hope this helped Derek. You know, like anyone else, I had someone variances. Yeah, basically. And to wrap things up, let us know about your experience of the first time you got on a bike and rode out like an actual proper city road.
00;45;13;28 - 00;45;36;09
Because we all know, like here in the U.S., at least I the motorcycle safety class is is a great thing to have, but it's also a very basic it's kind of a basic thing. It teaches you the basics of, you know, emergency stopping, making the bike go, making the bike turn. Yeah. How to shift gears and stuff. But it's nothing.
00;45;36;11 - 00;45;50;10
It's only two days. Yeah, it's like if you're yeah, I was going to say if it's, if you equate it to like if you're trying to start a garden, the myself isn't even like plowing the ground. The NSSF is plotting off the land that you're going to turn into a or like planting one. Put one flower in a pot.
00;45;50;11 - 00;46;12;10
Yeah. Instead of like an entire the entire, like garden and field. Yeah. So it's very important, I think, for any new rider to go out and to practice in a parking lot somewhere with no cars just to get a feel for practice. Those emergency maneuvers and all of that kind of stuff and yeah, and just accept that you are going to stall, you know you're going to stall.
00;46;12;17 - 00;46;31;04
You're probably going to drop it at one point average on my bike. You're still good. I well that's the thing. I've I haven't my bike hasn't touched the ground falling, but I have dropped it and I have caught it and I remember I hurt my hip. I think it's 2021. I do remember that. Yeah. I was in the mindset was like, no, I just got this bike.
00;46;31;04 - 00;46;50;07
I am not dropping, dropping it. And I had like a sore hip for like two weeks and like I hurt myself saving my bike. I ended up tipping mine over on an off road trail because I was going to school and it was because I I'd never I've never done that before and I wasn't quite like confident my ability to get it down, this kind of steepest rocky hill.
00;46;50;07 - 00;47;09;23
Yeah. And I got too nervous. I got too small, and my bike just went, yeah, I just it just wasn't I wasn't even going. I was going like three miles an hour. At that point. It just literally tipped over. Yeah. And just accept the fact that you probably will drop your bike at one point, whether it's hopefully it's not nothing major.
00;47;09;23 - 00;47;29;18
Hopefully as long as you're okay that's the priority. Yeah. Bike you can replace the bike you can fix your body's way more important than the bike for. Yeah, I for the most part, yeah. I made the wrong decision. Partly. I mean, you caught it still and it's fine. That's not like you hurt yourself in the process. Well, I did, but making yourself sore.
00;47;29;19 - 00;47;46;16
Yeah, like, No, it hurt. Like I got better. Yeah, Yeah, But I'm talking about, like, you know, a serious accident or a serious accident or injury crushing an ankle sometimes, you know, sometimes you might even forget to put your kickstand down on your bike or just tip over. And I heard a couple of close calls about myself where I did do that with my rebel.
00;47;46;16 - 00;48;06;26
I forgot to put the kickstand down. So it's bound to happen. And if it does, that's okay. As long as you're okay in the event of that fall, that's, that's the more important thing. Yeah. And I'll, and I'll, I'll just put it out there like I was my first distinguished gentleman's ride. I was almost that guy. I was.
00;48;06;28 - 00;48;23;27
We were leaving and we had our bikes all in a row parked, and I realized I had to. I think I did it, but I had to do something. So I, like, let go of the bike. And because I thought my kickstand was still down and it wasn't. And I was almost that guy that tipped everybody's bike over with like again, I caught it.
00;48;23;27 - 00;48;46;22
Yeah. I caught a much more embarrassing and dropping girl. Oh yeah, that was. I was mortified. I tried to move countries should of states countries and now everybody knows. So everything happens but nothing happens. No sign. Fine, fine. No harm. Yeah. You passed the statue. Statute of limitations to be embarrassed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. So. But. So, yeah, you're going to have these moments and, you know.
00;48;46;22 - 00;49;11;18
But yeah, hopefully you're safe. And so I guess to summarize, just congratulations on riding though. Congratulations on getting your first bike. Remember, you were invisible and everyone's trying to kill you on the freeway. Oh, one thing we didn't touch on. Let's do it really quick, before we're as dealing with wind. Oh, yeah, wind. Much worse than you would think if you have not ridden the motorcycle.
00;49;11;18 - 00;49;33;05
Yeah. And you're watching someone ride on TV with their, you know, perfect tear. Yeah. Helmet and just being totally calm. It's nothing like that. A giant semi passes you, you won't feel your bike move that airburst. Yeah. If you're behind a semi or any car you will feel a lot of turbulence and buffeting. And I think one of the biggest things that motorcycling taught me is feeling the wind.
00;49;33;10 - 00;50;01;15
Yeah. Like I can already know behind which cars air feels worse than others and how it just affects my ride. Crosswinds are a bitch and they will move you to the side. So it's one of those things that is scary at first, but just know, you know, hug your bike a little bit more with your hips. Yeah. And when you can do with crosswind too, is you can see the crosswinds coming at you from your left and you're having to, like, lean into it to fight it.
00;50;01;20 - 00;50;19;19
If you stick your left knee out, that can kind of act as a sail. Sail? Yeah. And it will it can kind of help correct you a little bit. So just you basically have to, like, almost counter the wind. Yeah. Usually if I'm stuck behind like a car or vehicle, I feel heavy turbulence. I try to, like, pass it as soon as I can because it feels awful.
00;50;19;19 - 00;50;34;08
Yeah. I mean, it's not necessarily going to make you crash. I mean, it's just not comfortable. It's just not comfortable because you're feeling your helmet like it's second force stuff. It detracts from the experience. So usually I try to pass. So yeah it's one of those things that you just have to get over it. Yeah, so be loud.
00;50;34;10 - 00;50;59;24
Also wear earplugs. Yeah, for earplugs for highway you're hearing does not come back once. That's once the word. Once it gets worse, it does not get better. What exactly? I was dumb Retinitis. Yeah. So yeah, that basically is it. Yeah. Just and always practice. Yeah, I think so. Practice. Practice. Like Ted Lasso said. Oh, yeah, Ted lasso. Nothing about practice anyways.
00;50;59;26 - 00;51;15;20
Yeah. Do you have anything else to add? I'm not so much for like what the topic was today addressing this email. I'm like, You know what? What could be out there and things like that. But I would just say if you guys have anything you feel we missed or could add to that again, like let us know. Yeah.
00;51;15;23 - 00;51;38;03
You can also find us on Instagram or personal. Oh right. We forgot to mention I would imagine that. So find us on Instagram. I am @gleblapham on Instagram and I am @meech2dbeech and we just launched our. Yeah, we have our teddy. Yeah, you did TDT Motorcycles on Instagram for the Podcast's Instagram. And also feel free to send us your emails at tdtmotorcycle@gmail.com.
00;51;38;03 - 00;52;01;01
Yeah, we are. Like Mitch said, we are always happy to hear. I love our listeners. It makes me happy every time we hear like a long email and like get people are actually listening. We're like people are asking us questions. So yeah, you know, like that's, that feels so cool. And like, and on that note too, because we even had a few people reach out and like, you know, it was a was it I think, oh yeah, it was.
00;52;01;08 - 00;52;16;17
Phil Philip, he emailed us and he just let us know. He's like, Hey, I've ridden with basically 250,000 miles over his belt and he's got a dozen bikes and still going, Oh, so thanks for even just reaching out. You know, I have a question. You just like want to let us know and talk to us a bit. Thank you so much for that.
00;52;16;17 - 00;52;37;09
Yeah, thanks for doing that. You know, and then we got David to reach out to us, I think. Oh, yeah, he wanted that. He was asking about some, like inexpensive ATV bikes, which is a tough market because ATV usually have more features and stuff, you know, so however much budget you have for that. But really, thank you guys for thank you so much and thank you for listening and feel free to share this.
00;52;37;09 - 00;52;56;03
We're riding friends and non-riding members and yeah, whoever else. And I'm thinking like, I'm curious to know if they would like to have that, if listeners would be interested in like us doing an episode on reviewing our gear. Yeah, let us know if you are interested in that. And so that's, that's something we can talk about in the future.
00;52;56;03 - 00;53;00;08
Yeah. So. All right, Well, thanks, guys so much. And we'll see you next time. Take care.