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Three, two, one. Welcome back to two dudes talking about motorcycles. Two dudes talking motorcycles. I forgot we took out the about. I'm dude number one. My name is Gleb. I'm guy number two. My name's Mitch. And you can find us on social media over here and over there and our podcast email logo right there in the middle. So if you have any questions, comments, suggestions for future topics, feel free to let us know because we would love to hear from you guys.
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And just a big shout out because we didn't expect to have over 500 total listeners at this point, which but we do. We have a lot of listeners, so we were very surprised by that. So whoever listens to this, thank you so much and hope you stick around longer. You guys are champs. You guys are champs. So this week or this month for this podcast, we're going to be talking about kind of a beginner bikes.
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We're going to be talking about our suggestions and recommendations for like different models of beginner bikes and as well as how to go about finding your first beginner bike. But before we get into our main topic, we're going to talk about a very much non beginner bike. I'm going to say the opposite of a beginner. Yeah, exactly. In regards.
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It's very expensive. It's very powerful. In fact, it is the most it has the largest engine and a production motorcycle in the world at the moment. And that is the 2023 Triumph Rocket three GC So good. It was such a fantastic bike. Shout out to all your sports Utah for letting us know that there a demo of that bike there.
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So we popped on down and decided to try it out and I mean, it was a fantastic thing to ride. And I think correct me if I'm wrong for the video listeners, they have a picture of that. Yes, I do have a picture of that. Let me pull it up. Thank you for reminding me to wherever it is, whatever you know was maybe I don't have it.
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Yeah, well, there you go. There it is. Yeah. Okay. We do have it. There you go. Sorry about that. We were real scrambling this week. You notice we're actually publishing a little bit later this time because we had a few technical difficulties on our first recording, so we had to redo it. Anyways, back to the Rocket three. It is a first of all, beautiful looking bike.
00;02;23;09 - 00;02;42;27
I absolutely love the dual headlight setup. If you're listening to this, check it out when you have a chance because this thing is stunning and I absolutely love the exhaust headers on the side there. Just the three of them. It just looks so like mean and brutal and menacing. Yeah. And it just makes me it just made me feel really cool sitting on it.
00;02;43;03 - 00;03;01;25
To me, it looks like a motorcycle that, like, Batman would ride in. It just. It's just such a cool looking matte black. Yeah. With blacked out headlights. Yeah. And like, a bat symbol instead of a triumph symbol and would be something. And missiles and the SLS. Yeah, I could see them launching out of, like, where the air intake is.
00;03;01;26 - 00;03;29;05
Yeah. So I think that will work well. But it was a fantastic bike and I absolutely love riding it. And despite it being a big bike, what surprises me the most is the way it handles even that lower speeds. You really don't feel the weight of the bike because the center of gravity solo engine is so heavy. Once you get a moving is a very maneuverable machine, even around parking lots, which kind of surprised me because I expect it to feel heavy and be heavy because it is not a light bike.
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Yeah, And that's why that's what surprised me too, was just like when I did stop and take a parking lot to say, Hey, let's see how this thing handles, because I got it going really fast. Of course. I mean, you know. Yeah, it was, but I got it. This is a powerful, big machine. Freight. You haven't been on, like, a more, like, laid back kind of bike before.
00;03;46;04 - 00;04;03;29
It's kind of weird to get used to it first, but then in the parking lot, that thing like it? I just felt confident as like, Yeah, let's all get out. Very confident, Inspiring bike. There's no reason somebody who has some experience with bigger bikes, there's no reason they shouldn't go to one of these if they can. They definitely should.
00;04;03;29 - 00;04;29;29
And I agree because what really stood out is not only is that bike really good at handling, it is also very, very fast. It's 160 horsepower, £163 ft of torque, I think. And you definitely feel like even in first gear like that things are already taking off and flying and it does not take very long to start breaking a few speed limit laws.
00;04;30;01 - 00;04;50;06
Yeah, because it is an absolute beast of a bike. And I also found it very comfortable. It was surprisingly comfortable at a very nice big cushy seat and they had all the creature comforts you'd expect from a bike that costs $25,000. You know, it was, you know, had heated seats or heated grips. I don't know if had a heated seat or not.
00;04;50;06 - 00;05;21;05
I can find I did, but I didn't look myself. Yeah, I didn't look either. I didn't look through much too much through the manuals because I was laying the day I didn't want to take up the dealership's time too much. So. So what's your what was your like first impression when you got on it? It was very like for me, really strange because I got on there and I lifted it up and I was expecting like this big heavy bike, but like off the kickstand it, it wasn't heavy to pull up and that's me because I'm used to a taller bike where you have a higher center of gravity.
00;05;21;05 - 00;05;38;26
You kind of got to work that over. Yeah, you know, but like, but that thing was just I was it When I kicked up the kickstand, I was just like, Oh, wow. Yeah. This thing's just balanced. Yeah, I can take more. A cruiser set up one. Yeah. So it's like. So for me, like, the only thing for me is just like, it was weird just getting my feet in the right place.
00;05;38;26 - 00;05;57;14
Yeah, I remember taking off. I remember taking off, and I just try to, like, go and put my feet up in, like, the standard position. Yeah. The upright, the, you know, the standard riding positions and my feet just like, drop down his. I'm like. GORNICK Yeah, I didn't I said the same. I did the same thing because I was just like, Wait, where's the guy that's further It's like, it's out here now.
00;05;57;15 - 00;06;20;05
Yeah. So but it's not a super aggressive cruiser position. Yeah, you're not like, you're fully stretched out there. It's a very neutral. It's just your legs are more forward. Yeah, it was just your. It's not like an a passenger by any means. It was just like your feet are more forward. Yeah, but no, it was very comfortable. I felt like I could, like, pack a bag and just write off from the side that thing and peel my skin off the top.
00;06;20;08 - 00;06;41;09
That's top speed. The one we rode was the GTI model. They also have the R, which is okay, which is the more kind of a street oriented model, I should say. So it has a standard riding position. Your feet are right below. Oh yeah, that's right. So it's more like sporty. Yeah, it's a lot more sporty and stuff and doesn't have anything.
00;06;41;10 - 00;06;59;16
Has a as big of a pillion seat and the pillion backrest like BGT does and probably some other missing features on there. The one the only thing that kind of surprising is despite it being a $25,000 bike, it did not have electronic suspension, at least in the front. I didn't check to see if I had. The back is electronic or not.
00;06;59;18 - 00;07;15;26
You don't remember, but the front with the rear was, I want to say, but I don't want to quote that either. Yeah, I don't know off the top of my head. But I was kind of surprised that the front was not electronically adjusted because I kind of expected something like that to be a case on a bike that expensive.
00;07;16;03 - 00;07;34;21
Yeah, but maybe they're trying to keep a more more like strip down more manual. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, like, because I had experience, I hit some bumps and it wasn't bad either. Yeah. Like, it wasn't another thing that I didn't think of to from like, in the time since we've ridden that bike drive shaft or is a shaft drive.
00;07;34;25 - 00;07;51;07
Yeah. So that's very nice. Yes. I don't have to worry about cleaning or maintenance except for once, every once in a lifetime probably. Yeah. If that. I really want winter to be over, but I really don't want to clean my chain. Yeah, I have to do it now. He's got to understand that so you can clean it much easier.
00;07;51;09 - 00;08;15;11
Okay. So shall we move on to our main topic? Yeah, I think so. Guys. Oh, we got to think them though, first. Yes, hit that demo because that was awesome. Yeah. Thank you again to your sports use on now formally. Harrison, you're a sports officer in the area. If you're planning on looking them up if you live in Utah, definitely check them out because they're awesome folks down there and they they have plenty of bikes.
00;08;15;15 - 00;08;37;06
We have BMW is Triumph Ducati. So I haven't had a bad experience down there yet. So pop in and see if they got a demo. Hmm. So our main topic, like I mentioned earlier, is beginning Motorcycle, so I have a smaller list of beginner bikes that I think would kind of work for someone just barely starting out, something that's relatively low price.
00;08;37;06 - 00;09;02;00
I try to keep it under $10,000 for a brand new bike or for a used one and kind of separate into different categories and you kind of had just different suggestions on what to look for. Yeah, that's, you know, when we like we had this idea come out of, I was thinking like, oh well let's just talk like we can talk about like our recommendations for beginner bikes.
00;09;02;00 - 00;09;19;00
But then I started thinking like, whereas different kinds of riders, yeah, people start out, you know, really young or into like early to mid to late twenties and even beyond. You know, people can start at any age pretty much. So just and then within that there's people who want to do different kind of riding Yeah, you know, I wanted to start out on cruisers.
00;09;19;00 - 00;09;43;20
I thought I thought I wanted a cruiser. Yeah. So I'm trying to say I wanted a a cruiser when I started and I got into Riding and I rode my Honda Rebel. I do think that's a really good, like, beginner cruiser bike. Yeah. You know, for like, if, if you're a someone who's maybe smaller stature or you don't have like the height because motor that can be a challenge for me.
00;09;43;22 - 00;10;06;10
Yeah. You know. Yeah. I mean his height. Yeah. But I was thinking then so we talked about it earlier or last week as well. Was the, you know, so my dad rides a Honda Shadow Rebel 750 Yeah. You know, honestly, like if you want a v-twin, you know, and like, and you don't want to go out and spend a ton of money, you know those honestly, it's a nice bike, though.
00;10;06;11 - 00;10;24;16
Those little shadow a Honda shadow's like it's a nice ride and they're not too expensive. That's a little bit of an older bike, right? Yeah, it's pretty more barebones. Yeah, it's more barebones. You know, I don't know if they've updated it. I'm pretty sure that's okay. Yeah, I'm okay. I wasn't sure, but it is a more barebones bike.
00;10;24;16 - 00;10;42;10
I'm okay. Sure, Unless they've done updates that I haven't looked into. But you know, again, as a beginner, you want to get into like that, that style of Riding, I think that would be a good bike that you can, one learn with and then grow into it. So you should be like set for a while with a for a cruiser.
00;10;42;13 - 00;11;10;02
But what did you buy? What about you was kind of go for actually it did have the little categories here. So for one of them, I did have the Honda Rebel as part of the cruiser, also along with the the Vulcan S, the Kawasaki Vulcan. Yeah. Because one, I think they're pretty very nice looking bikes especially in that kind of a darker green they have which I'm not the biggest fan of like yeah the bright green that Kawasaki puts on a lot of their bikes.
00;11;10;05 - 00;11;30;28
But I think it looks very nice on the Vulcan because it kind of just works well with like the chrome or the blackout on it. I think it just adds a lot to it. And also I feel like it's a little bit darker than a lot of their other colors, so maybe that kind of helps. I was going I was just going to make a joke about cars in Monster Energy Green, but I think it's a pretty looking bike and it is.
00;11;31;00 - 00;11;50;22
I think it's a 650 CC. So I think that's a very good kind of a starting range for a beginner bike. Then along with that, I also have the Rebel 500 because I remember you had yours and I remember I think I rode, I don't know if I ever rode yours, but I have ridden a rebel 500 before and it is a very low to the ground.
00;11;50;23 - 00;12;09;11
Very it's not an intimidating bike. So I think would be a very nice beginner bike. Whether you want to get into like a cruiser category or just have a beginner bike, I think it's a very good one to start off with. Yeah. And like, you know, I could probably go on and on for like things that I didn't like about the rebel that now that I have more experience as I go Riding and stuff now.
00;12;09;13 - 00;12;28;26
Yeah, but honestly, it was a great bike. Like all things considered for the price for like the looks for it. Yeah. And then like because I was pretty, not pretty nervous, I was a little getting Oh yeah, all of us, you know. And so it did help me like being able to get like get out there on the, on having started on a smaller bike.
00;12;28;26 - 00;12;47;11
Yeah. Even though I'm six foot seven like, but I would because you know, like walking into the dealership and I see that big tall Africa twin, I was like, oh no, no, no, no. Oh yeah. It's one that's a very intimidating looking. But yeah, but on the downside of that, you know, it does seem like 500 CC is easy to grow out of, especially if you're a bigger person.
00;12;47;12 - 00;13;12;15
Because just like when you're traveling, just like you. I also started out on the 500 CC bike. Yeah. In fact, our bikes had this same exact same engine of all the different because my first bike was the Honda CB 500 Acts, the 2019 model. And from the start I knew that I wanted to start or get into the adventure bike category because I've been watching it you boots on YouTube for a while.
00;13;12;15 - 00;13;53;11
At that point, several other riders that have traveled throughout the world on motorcycles and they all have adventure bikes and like that is something that I would really want to do. I want to have an adventure bike because I want to be able to ride on road and off road, and I wanted something like that. So after doing some research, going through a few models which included the Honda Insight, so which included the Honda CB 500 X, I tried the Royal Enfield, the Himalayan, the Kawasaki Versus 300 and all really good beginner bikes and very low priced bikes.
00;13;53;11 - 00;14;19;20
But I decided to go with the 500 X because the other ones I probably would have grown out of very quick because the 500 I had for two years and it did feel like I grew out of it really quick. But that's what I have on my list. For beginner ATV bikers, the Honda CB 500 X and I also added the Honda CRF 300 L if you want something a little bit more dirt oriented, but still has fairings and a little bit larger fuel tank than your average tool sport.
00;14;19;22 - 00;14;36;00
You know something I realized too? It's like because we had the same engine, you know, 500 cc bikes and like you got to roughly two years or a little more than two years out of yours. I got like eight or seven months out of mine before you jumped on mine. And like and you know, we've talked about it before and I go, Oh, I got a good deal.
00;14;36;02 - 00;15;00;19
But at the same time, like I was ready to upgrade at that point. Yeah. You know, And so it was very like, yes, it it's just interesting to see between two perspectives of just like, oh, like, well, it's going to work. Yeah, yeah, exactly. For how long you can hold out for. And I felt like I probably could have gone even longer on my CB 500 X, but once I rode the the tiger I that I have now, it's just like, oh, this is too good.
00;15;00;19 - 00;15;19;16
Yeah. That's too good of a bike. Like, it just felt so much more refined. Yeah, way more power, way better suspension like, way better handling. I was like, Yeah, I'm sold. So I tried the African twin before that and I was like, This is good. But it just feels so top heavy like I was. I was not a big fan, but I did.
00;15;19;16 - 00;15;57;14
Like I had a pretty substantial electronics package on it compared to the Triumph. Yeah, for relatively the same price. So further down the list, I have a naked in standard bike, so I had the Suzuki SD 650 because that's the favor of read it. So I just don't so throw it up further on there. But in reality it is a very like basic bike that is a good all around city bike and street bike because it's not tall, it's not big, it's good amount of power for what it has and it looks personal with all the kits and stuff out there you can do, you can pretty much do whatever you want to.
00;15;57;16 - 00;16;27;23
SD 650 in terms of like mods and customizations. Absolutely. So I think if you're planning to, you know, upgrade or really play around with it, it's really good. Plus there's a million of them. You can find it online so easy and I'm pretty sure the parts form a very abundant and cheap Suzuki, which is B which is a very good thing to have in the beginning there because, you know, there's a high chance that you might end up dropping it or doing something with it or you might want to, like change some parts out and you can find those pretty easily and very cheap compared to, say, like a European bike.
00;16;27;26 - 00;16;52;13
Yeah. And speaking of European bikes, I also have on there for the naked slash standard category, the Triumph Trident 660. Yeah. Which is one of the newer Triumph models. I think it came out when the last couple of years or so, but 2021 I think, or it was announced 2020, but it was after I got my Honda, because when that was announced I was like, I think, well, if I had known that, I would have waited.
00;16;52;20 - 00;17;13;05
So I think remember the bike and the Trident 660 is a very nice and a very robust like we got all sorts of like, yeah, like honestly, like for like all the stuff that you get on there, like a I don't think it's true. TFT is a I, it's got a fancier screen. Yeah, yeah. But see, but it's like one of the nicer LCD is Yeah.
00;17;13;06 - 00;17;34;28
Color on it's a little brighter. Yeah. And it's got like the are narrower modes. Those are cruise control I believe. And then like I think that's a couple of Right. That's right. Yeah that's right. Maybe not cruise cruise Pro traction control. Yeah that's good right. It's nice included like stability control and things like that. Something you don't really see on a lot of beginner bikes and it looks specially and it looks good.
00;17;34;29 - 00;17;52;06
Yeah. I don't have a picture unfortunately, but yeah, it is a good looking bike and I think it's really nice that it has especially like traction control and abs and things because I think those things can be very helpful for beginner rider. So you don't want go too crazy, but also the bike can help you manage kind of sketchy of situations.
00;17;52;06 - 00;18;06;04
If you lose track, show it can get traction, it can kind of when it's out without a little bit. Yeah. And just like the size of the bike and that's torque and power from what it seems to just it's one of those things that you can grow into. It's when you're not going to you shouldn't outgrow very quickly.
00;18;06;06 - 00;18;25;12
And I think this is a point that I just wanted to mention. A small injured bike doesn't necessarily mean it's not a fun bike. Oh, not harmful. No, not at all. And I think one of the probably like benefits of a smaller bike, small capacity bike is they can really you can have fun. You can have fun with that.
00;18;25;12 - 00;18;43;22
You can really push that engine without going 800 miles an hour. Chris Yeah, I like for a standard bike, like when I was considering and like I was like the, the, the Duke 390 from KTM. Yeah, I can see, I see people having tons of fun on those things, you know, or like the baby Dukes or like the ninjas.
00;18;43;22 - 00;19;04;08
Yeah. The Ninja 300, three, 400. Like, yeah, people are threes or the Yamaha threes, which is what I put for. Like if you want like the, the fully faired sport bike, I would say like an R three and I can't go wrong with an hour three. I had the Ninja 400 or the Honda CBR 550 for that because one cheap, reliable, easy to find.
00;19;04;11 - 00;19;24;27
And if you want to get into sports riding those bikes, they'll haul ass. Even though they're small capacity bikes, they're still very, very their height, their high wound. I was somewhat in favor of. I really. Yeah. Yeah. They're high road bikes and and I don't think you can go wrong with either one just because. Yeah. Like you said, it's like Yeah, smaller engine bikes.
00;19;24;27 - 00;19;40;12
Yeah. You can still have a lot of fun with them. It's a good, it's a good sport bike for the road. Yeah. And you know, I feel like if you're a new rider, you kind of hit two, you get, you'll get to a point where you kind of know where you feel like, you know, I kind of want to do more or I wish this bike did this or had this feature.
00;19;40;12 - 00;19;55;19
I had this other feature, and that's when the car starts to click for you. Yeah, I want to look at another bike for a minute and then you end up finding a good deal on one. They're falling in love with one and then you just end up buying one and you're like, Oh, I'm back at that now. Yeah, well, yeah, that's what I learned.
00;19;55;19 - 00;20;11;02
The correct answer is until I get a different bike, it's to get another bike. If I had the money and the room to put another bike, I would, I would say do it the same. It's really hard not having a bike payment. I kind of miss that financial strain that was like, I only have one motorcycle. That is so much fun to have.
00;20;11;02 - 00;20;46;23
Yeah, so I'm still paying for my tiger, so I'll be a while before I get another one. But so next I wanted to touch on Oh, can I say my first. Oh yeah, sorry. Out because like, you know, we're trying to say in like a price point or we're taking that into consideration for new riders. But like I say, if you could find like a used one or if you have like a little bit more like wiggle room in your budget for the standard slash classic kind of bike, and I wasn't sure which to put this into, honestly, like a street, a street twin or a Bonneville.
00;20;46;23 - 00;21;05;24
T 100 oh nine those 900 CC and just you're right you know because like they're now those bikes can't or the bundles can be a little bit heavier and we just like for the classic part of them but they're going to you're going to be able have a lot of fun on them. Beautiful. They're beautiful. They're absolutely gorgeous bikes.
00;21;05;27 - 00;21;32;03
If you want that classic standard look, you know, And then I put down like the the trident or the like the ktm's, if you want more of like a standard naked bike sports. Yeah, but that's actually a good point because just the other week I saw the Bonneville T 100 I think this is older T 120 but it was ten grand used, so the t 100 would be even cheaper than that.
00;21;32;03 - 00;21;48;24
So yeah, if you want like a very classic looking old school motorcycle, those, those are actually a very good option you can find use once it's a little bit harder to find right now but you can find used ones for under ten grand and I mean only cruising in style on those. Yeah. And even like the street twin too.
00;21;48;24 - 00;22;10;16
Like it still has that classic bonnet look with a little bit more modern twist to it. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like yeah, I would say like those would be some great, very good looking bikes. Also, even that that's just came up in my head. The desert sled or the the desert Ducati or scrambler. Oh, I like I would have to disagree with you on the desert sled for being a beginner, so forget it.
00;22;10;18 - 00;22;27;28
Ducati Scrambler, desert sled, not the desert X. Oh, my bad, bad. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, but that's also. But I think you can find those for another ten grand. So yeah, roughly around that, that price range. If you want something a little bit fancier. A little bit. I do see a lot of the Ducati scramblers around. Yeah. It's a very popular model.
00;22;28;01 - 00;22;48;09
Yeah. And they're not crazy expensive either. I mean they're, they're more than like what you'd get for like a Honda or something. You know, It all depends. Like what, where you want it, like what you want to get. But I do see a lot of people on those. So and then for one last category, I had this one I kind of put a question mark next to it because I wasn't really sure if this is the right bike for it, but I had the versus 650.
00;22;48;09 - 00;23;05;28
That's for like the touring category. Oh, yeah. So if you want to do long weekend rides or, you know, week long rides, but don't really care about going off road and you don't have to break the bank and you have to. Yeah, because three bikes they get up their prices, they have so many different features and things like that.
00;23;06;00 - 00;23;31;20
Yeah, but the versa. 650 you can find them used very, very cheap and they're fairly cheap, brand new and they're just available everywhere and they pretty much are run of the mill touring bike. They're a little bit more sport touring, but yeah, they're kind of like, I feel like they're in between sport, touring and adventure, like this weird mall because they still have like the kind of a smaller front wheel, this like smaller back wheel.
00;23;31;23 - 00;23;49;10
Yeah, compared to, like true adventure bikes. But they still kind of like have the shape and look like the kind of inventory, kind of like it's kind of a weird like hybrid in between. Yeah. Type model. But I think they do look and they look fairly good. I think I remember like looking at one like an ad online for one because it was used, it was cheap.
00;23;49;10 - 00;24;05;09
Yeah. You know like, or shouldn't say cheap. It was affordable. Yeah. For like what I was looking at is like, I don't think it really would have been a bad option. But at the same time, it's like this. I don't know. I haven't ridden one. So it would be unfair to say I had more fun on my rebel.
00;24;05;10 - 00;24;24;26
But yeah, the rebel was a little peppy. 500, you know, a little fun. So yeah. And the but the touring category, if you're looking to get into that, you're going to be probably more like a pony up a little bit more money because those bikes, true touring bikes get a get price fast, especially in a sport touring category.
00;24;24;26 - 00;24;40;26
And what we've discovered too, that the motorcycle is not the most expensive part of motorcycling. No, it is not. It is everything else that you just end up having. I was looking around like my little office space and like all that. It's just I've got so much stuff, so much random gear. I was like, What? Why? Why do I have this?
00;24;40;26 - 00;25;09;02
I've worn this inside. Exactly. And that is a good point to bring up and get Segway to the next segment really is Oh yeah. When you're starting out, don't just budget for the motorcycle. And so that's going to be a large chunk of your budget, but you're going to be spending a ton of money on gear and you can find very cheap gear from various different brands and different even from more of like the premium brands quotes.
00;25;09;05 - 00;25;33;09
You know, they have different levels of of Yeah well like all this all this for helmets and stuff but make it like you're your safety is not going to be improved by spending more money now you just get some more creature comforts. Exactly So with a helmet, definitely look to make sure it's Snell Snell rated Snell or easy.
00;25;33;12 - 00;25;57;25
Yeah, easy Or then you were once coming in as the FEMA. I think the. Oh I know you're talking if I Yeah I know you're talking about if I am a FEMA son. I know what you're talking about. Okay. Yeah. So I want to go to 49 4904 Yeah. Talking about that or, or in the UK they have the sharp rating as well, which is like the UK standard.
00;25;57;28 - 00;26;28;27
And in the US, obviously they're all going to have to be that rated department transportation but for now actually has a really good video where they talks about how that's a very terrible standard because it's basically just an honor system. And yeah, anyone can put a sticker on their helmet, say a certified. So yeah, I would personally always double check to make sure it's either AC or Snell rated or sharp or whatever other certifications because those guys focus on certifying helmets not for just street rating but for actual like racing and things like that.
00;26;28;29 - 00;26;50;00
So instead of and it's not an honor system, they actually have to test them and prove that yeah they're helmet work one to get that certification. And on that topic of of helmets I was wondering what you think. So I started out I bought like a 250 or $300 helmet. Yeah. You know, and it got the job done.
00;26;50;02 - 00;27;09;23
It was Snell and AC rated and you know, this was it was it was a good helmet. Yeah. Safety and everything but it was a little heavy as a little bulb. AC And then like by the time I got my other bike, I was just like kind of wanting something a little bit better. And it was loud too.
00;27;09;26 - 00;27;26;13
So for me, I'm in the I'm in the camp of, you know, like buy once, cry once now, because I started is like, okay, I'm just getting into this. I don't know if I'm going to like it all that much. So I bought a cheap jacket, I bought cheap gloves, cheap pants, and then like a cheap helmet. So, you know, and they were all motorcycle rated.
00;27;26;13 - 00;27;45;09
They were safe. But I replace them or I have them. I just don't use them anymore. Yeah. So what do you are you buy ones gray ones are you. I think you or would you tell somebody to like, you know obviously obviously I don't I wouldn't say like you know don't go don't empty your bank account for for something better.
00;27;45;09 - 00;28;13;18
But like, but plan accordingly. I, I don't remember if you remember when we first started Riding together since we both started relative the same time. Yeah. But I came riding in a sand jacket. Oh, yeah, that's right. The Revit love our jeans, but $250 jeans and. But I got 200 European made it out. I went all out and a $600 helmet.
00;28;13;20 - 00;28;35;15
Yeah. The showy I was in the more more of the buy once cry wants type of deal because I wanted something that I can just buy and have and be comfortable in and have it work. And the biggest thing I spend the most money on was the helmet because I was kind of under the impression like, Oh, it's more expensive.
00;28;35;15 - 00;28;52;23
So it has to be safer and safer and better. It was kind of after that I learned it's like, okay, that's not really the case. There's different levels, but like you said, there is the creature comforts that you get from a more expensive helmet. You get a better lighter inside that's removable and washable and more like, is it antibacterial?
00;28;52;23 - 00;29;13;25
So the smell is bad. You might get better ventilation, you might get a better visor, or like it will come with like a pin lock or just noise control or just better noise insulation and things like that. And so not necessarily safety, but it just makes you feel more comfortable that could be lighter, like you got some of those, you know, under carbon fiber and they weigh next to nothing and things like that.
00;29;13;25 - 00;29;31;02
Well, you know, it could just be like maybe we're just we're just too soft because, you know, like there are people who do get they do just fine with that's true or stuff, you know. So like in I would say too, we do pretty long rides. So yeah. So it's like it just depends. I think we need those a little bit more.
00;29;31;05 - 00;29;49;05
Yeah, it kind of just depends on what your comfort level is. I personally like to be comfortable. Yeah, even though a motorcycle is not the most comfortable activity, but I prefer to make myself, like, as comfortable as I can be while also enjoying motorcycling. And that for me involved spending a little bit more money just so I can get a jacket that I really like.
00;29;49;05 - 00;30;13;10
The fit of that will work in multiple situations because it is an adventure jacket, right? So it works well on long rides or just colder weather rides, but I did end up buying more a year later on. Still like I have my airway of jacket for summer riding. Yeah, you know, I wanted as much airflow as possible. I have two pairs of street boots because I realized the ones I bought initially were a little too hot because they're waterproof.
00;30;13;12 - 00;30;45;05
Yeah. And then I bought my adventure boots because I needed nice touring boots for a long rides and for off roading because I don't want my shins and ankles to be breaking apart. So. So I did spend probably the most money on boots after that because I have three different pairs now. And beyond that, I have a pair of touring pants and a pair of jeans, so I focus initially on more like the adventure riding type stuff, minus the boots.
00;30;45;05 - 00;31;07;21
That was kind of like a shirt. I just bought adventure boots from the start. Yeah, but now that I do a little bit of riding, I kind of like having a motorcycle clothes that look casual. But also it's efforts for something more technical. Yeah, no, I hear that. So I think I think in the end, it just kind of depends on what kind of riding you're doing.
00;31;07;21 - 00;31;26;27
If you're your couch just scared me. If you're if you're doing more street riding and things like that, you're going to be buying a certain set of clothes. But if you're planning on doing touring or adventure riding and going long distance, you're probably going to be spending a little bit more money because those clothes tend to get a little bit more expensive because you get you.
00;31;27;00 - 00;31;48;22
They have like the waterproof lining and we can't wear the sport bike riders that are leather suits. No, that's true. That's that's a whole other level of category. And those leather seats do not look cheap. No. Or very comfortable, I think. I can't say I've never been or I've never been on any kind. So I feel like I would just boil it probably until I start moving.
00;31;48;24 - 00;32;11;14
So there's different levels of gear that you can get. And to look at one of my best recommendations probably is to go to yellow. If you have a look, if your local motorcycle dealer has an area inside where they sell gear and equipment and things like that, to go in there and try it on yourself, especially the helmet, I think those are ones that you have to try on in person.
00;32;11;14 - 00;32;30;14
Oh yeah, no doubt. Try them on, see how they feel. If something doesn't feel right, try something else. Because just remember, you're going to be spending a long time on this and you want to be you don't want to have any weird like pressure points or pulling or nagging anywhere that's going to distract you from riding and from watching the road and enjoying the ride.
00;32;30;16 - 00;32;50;03
When make just making you not want to wear it too. Oh yeah, that's true. I hear that from people who's like, Oh, I have safety gear, but like, I don't want to wear it because it's uncomfortable. Yeah, well, you know, and they're not that it's ever going to feel like razor clothes, but yeah, and it doesn't. And that's just kind of, you know but you can find something that would that, you know just Yeah.
00;32;50;03 - 00;33;09;11
So it's like I like, I would say like just spend the time and you know, perhaps the money if warranted, just get something a little bit higher quality. I don't even want to say quality cause there's some good stuff that's, you know, that's super expensive, but just something that feels comfortable and Right. Don't, don't, don't just go for the lowest bid.
00;33;09;11 - 00;33;31;07
Yeah. And one of the things I notice also with spending a little bit, a little bit more on gear or especially like clothes and stuff like that and those are some of the more expensive services, better armor, not necessarily in terms of protection, but in comfort. Yeah, because you get to have more flexible armor instead of hard armor, like on my rubber jacket, like it's got a lot more flex in the elbow.
00;33;31;07 - 00;33;53;03
And I really like on the airwave on the way it has. Yeah. C soft armor which feels really nice and yeah, that is pretty good stuff. Yeah. So for me that was worth spending just for the extra comfort. But I mean, everyone has their own levels of comfort, so I think it's just kind of up to the person to determine what they're willing to do and if they want to ride with street clothes, I mean, that's their life.
00;33;53;10 - 00;34;15;27
Yeah. So if these are mine, I would say like, it's just do what you want, but I don't care where. Just please wear a helmet to helmet and gloves. Yeah. And proper boots. That's, that's the everything else you can kind of probably just like, you know, as long as they wear a helmet and gloves. Yeah. Not that I would bug them any, especially because I was also from 49 for it from 40 9 a.m. over here.
00;34;16;00 - 00;34;31;22
He had a video talking about how one of the biggest injuries happens on the ankle because if you're a new rider, you have a chance of dropping the bike and if your boots aren't protected and and I'm talking proper riding boots, not just hiking boots or when you dropped your tiger and good thing you're wearing ATV boots. Yeah.
00;34;31;23 - 00;34;55;05
Yeah. My my foot was fine. I saw that. Yeah. My foot was pinned like I had to prop the bike up of all slide that out. And my my foot was fine. And, you know, that was an ATV, but that was a whole different situation. But if you're riding on the street, something with a bit more ankle protection than your average boot and abrasion protection is the big one will save you a lot of money in hospital bills and a lot of pain later on, I feel like.
00;34;55;05 - 00;35;23;11
So my opinion boots, gloves, helmet is probably the three most important things you can get. And then everything else you can kind of piece together as whatever safety level you want to be at. Yeah, I am an at cat person except for the distinguished gentleman's ride. And then I wear a helmet and gloves and there's only been a few times where I've worn I saw my jacket all the time, but I wear just regular jeans and that's was we went on that the Rocket three, right?
00;35;23;11 - 00;35;43;14
I was just wearing regular jeans and boots because it was just around the just around the block there, the neighborhood. It wasn't really a long race. I was like, okay, fine, I'll risk it. But that's, you know, still a risk right there. Yeah, Well, and I like it with the you know, it's get me. I lost it. I had something important to go with that, but I've lost it.
00;35;43;14 - 00;36;09;01
So that's. That's on me. Big important thing. I would recommend though as earplugs for. Yeah. I would say that earplugs for long rides. Especially for long rides. And I don't know, for me personally, I, I've pretty sensitive hearing I feel like and I already have slight ringing in my ears, which I don't like. So once I did like my first higher speed ride that's that was not around the neighborhood.
00;36;09;01 - 00;36;26;22
I was actually getting up to 60 miles an hour. So I was like, My ears are killing me. I feel ringing. They are very loud and I did not expect it to be as loud as that on the motorcycle. It just never occurred to me for some reason, because I've never really been on one before. And I'm just like, Oh yeah, you know, it'll be loud, but it won't be that bad.
00;36;26;22 - 00;36;48;22
But I was like, Oh, this is loud. So I've made sure to invest in some, like, high fidelity earplugs that were comfortable under the helmet. So I can still hear traffic, but I can't hear the wind or the road noise twice as much, and that helps immensely. Plus, I feel like it helps a lot and longer rides because it keeps you more awake, more sharp, because you're not getting that constant noise.
00;36;48;22 - 00;37;03;13
Yeah, for me, it's like I usually do wear them, but if I'm going to go like grab some food or some friends and it's not very far, I'm just like, I don't want to, you know, So like. But long rides highway for sure. Yeah. And not even like, long distance rides. Just like, okay, I'm going to be out for a while.
00;37;03;13 - 00;37;19;04
I just. Wherever I'm going. Yeah. Just who's going to be putting around town like then I'll wear I because then I'm riding, then I'm exposed to that sound for a long time. Exactly. So, so it's, it's the amount of time you're exposed to it. Not necessarily the loudness of the sound. Yeah, but I think that's a very important thing to have.
00;37;19;05 - 00;37;39;03
Also, if you start out on a Honda Rebel with that stock exhaust, I think it's going to blow your house because a muffler, once you lose a hearing, it's not coming back. So if you're a new rider, just be cautious and be aware of that, especially if you're planning on doing longer rides because you'll probably regret it in the future.
00;37;39;04 - 00;38;03;01
Yeah, because I used to listen to really loud music with earplugs in or ear earphones in high school, and now I just neglected my ears. So I think we all that at one point in life and now we're kind of paying for it a little bit. But yeah, I was going to say I did ride to I could be one of those guys who would like go to the gym on their motorcycle and like there's, I missed riding.
00;38;03;01 - 00;38;17;11
It was like, you know, it's like I rode to the to my gym, which was only a few blocks away. Yeah. So I had my helmet and my gloves. I was just in gym clothes. I did not like that at all. So I wrote. I rode mine in shorts one time to just around the neighborhoods, pull it back into the garage.
00;38;17;14 - 00;38;35;15
And I was like, I don't know. Nope. I feel so exposed and uncomfortable. You don't really realize how like thin, like gym shoes are. And so you're like going down the road. And I was like, like, Oh, this is tissue paper. Yeah, yeah. If I were to fall right now, this would disintegrate into my foot like, immediately. And so props to you guys who do that.
00;38;35;15 - 00;38;59;06
But I also, I can't wear foot protection when you, when you first started riding, did you kind of expect to be spending or looking at gear as hard as you did? MM Yeah, I guess like maybe I didn't like, fully realize it, but like I was, I was aware of how much time I was spending looking at gloves, helmets, like, Oh, that looks cool.
00;38;59;06 - 00;39;20;09
That looks cool. I hate that. Yeah, yeah, that you buy your gear before you buy your bike. I bought like first I bought my helmet first. I was just like, so I think I just need that shopping therapy. Yeah. Cause I just, like it was like the day after, like a family funeral. And so I just, like, went and grabbed so.
00;39;20;14 - 00;39;45;24
So I went and bought my first motorcycle helmet and like, I hadn't even taken the, the MSF was in for like another month or so really. Okay. Or No, no, no, that's not right. It was a few weeks. It's still a few weeks ago. So I bought my own helmet for the NSSF. Okay, I didn't know that. And then I bought the once I finished with the MSF, I went and bought my jacket and gloves the same day.
00;39;45;27 - 00;40;07;27
Okay. And I started out using just like standard fork boots for a minute. And then I did my MSF almost a year before actually on my motorcycle. So I had a quite a long time too. I can actually afford a bike at the time, but I really wanted to have the endorsement for when I do have finally can afford a bike, I can just go and buy one.
00;40;08;00 - 00;40;23;07
But it was about two weeks before I bought my first bike that I bought all the gear because I was so concerned about safety and just being protective because I don't want it to have to go to the doctor at end up in the hospital. So I was like, okay, I'm just going to buy all this and then I can spend money on the bike.
00;40;23;10 - 00;40;58;05
All right? So I kind of reverse and this is during COVID, so it's nice to have those sweet stimulus checks. So yeah, that's what helped me get mine stimulating the economy by buying motorcycle gear. Yeah, just it's it's patriotic. Yeah. So it's we did our duty as Americans buy your motorcycles. Buy motorcycles. Be an American. Yeah, but since since then it's just kind of after I feel like after you start riding, you kind of just learn to pick up on what kind of equipment and gear need, what you're missing, and where you need to make upgrades and where you can probably save some money.
00;40;58;07 - 00;41;16;25
Yeah, I just here now, I think that would be really good too. And like and if you can to like this is one thing I've kind of picked up on is like if the shop will let you, if you're like shopping in person or if you order online, just try it out like before you take off on the road.
00;41;16;25 - 00;41;36;10
Like see how it says. Like if you got new gloves, make sure you can manipulate your controls. Everything. Right. You know, it's kind of like like if you ever take flying lessons, they tell you, like, armchair flying and it's kind of like, Yeah, just kind of like, sit down for a while wearing your gear. And it it looks better if you live alone.
00;41;36;10 - 00;41;59;09
You look like a weirdo with people walking on you and you're sitting in the house in motorcycle gear. But actually, no, like really just like, sit in all your stuff and just wear it for a minute because then you'll find that I would rather find out if I hate something at home than. Yeah, that's what I do with any basically any piece of clothing clothing I buy, whether it's motorcycle related or like ski jacket, outdoor clothes and stuff like that.
00;41;59;16 - 00;42;18;05
I will even in the store I was trying to ski jackets just last week and I've seen the middle of Colombia, a store like reaching my arms up, touching my toes and stuff like moving around, stretching because I'm just like, where's a pole? What's it doing? And I basically do do that with any kind of like technical clothing.
00;42;18;05 - 00;42;35;06
I buy that. The same thing with motorcycle clothes, especially with the pants. Like, how does it feel if I squat down? Yeah, there's a pull anywhere. And I think that's kind of it's kind of one of those important things to try out seeing all that they're going to be comfortable in. Yeah, on the long ride. No, I agree.
00;42;35;06 - 00;42;54;01
I think. Yeah, that's just that that's just stuff that sounds like we've both just kind of learned as we go. If you were to start riding now or looking back to when you first started, would you do anything different in regards to what kind of gear you buy or, like I said, like what kind of motorcycle you bought?
00;42;54;04 - 00;43;17;09
Yeah. Yes. No, I like I said before, as I would have spent more on like the gear now because like, you know, okay, like maybe I spent less than you when I started out. Yeah. Lo and behold, eight months later, I'm buying it all over again. So, you know, and I'm still rolling with this most of the same stuff.
00;43;17;10 - 00;43;36;14
Yeah. Yeah. So, but at the same time I did switch from leggings like, oh, I want like, I thought, I want that little baby cruiser life. Yeah. And I was like, no, adventuring is more fun for me personally. So if you were knowing that if you were to go back in time, knowing that you would get want to do adventure riding, what would you get instead?
00;43;36;16 - 00;43;54;11
Um, well, helmet or wait for my motorcycle, motorcycle or RV. So, like, my dream bike was that scrambler? I didn't think I'd ever afford it. So then I. Then I did. That's true. So I got. I got the bike, I read the I got, like, you know, scrolling through all these types of motorcycles. And I saw the scrambler.
00;43;54;11 - 00;44;09;16
The trans scrambler? Yeah. Like, that's the bike. That's the one. Okay. But then I saw the price and then landed on something. And then reality hits, like, now I got to get something a little bit more within my budget. So for the cruiser life. And not just because of cruiser, but because it's a it's a Honda. Yeah, that's true.
00;44;09;20 - 00;44;38;23
Yeah. Yeah. That's one of the reasons why of Honda's my first bike was this because I just knew it was going to work. It's going to be well and not just like like that. I just like but it seemed like price point wise, I think Honda will typically like, take home the gold in that category of like a approachability for the price 100% agree So on the for the most case I do make some good motorcycles I pretty much every motorcycle manufacturer makes yeah makes good stuff and I feel like all of them have the one or two models that are kind of like worse than the others.
00;44;38;23 - 00;44;53;26
Well, that's not quite as good. Well, that's what I mean. Was like when I was looking for the Honda's. They're saying their price points are what kind of drove me to look at them more detail. So because it's like my first CB 500 that I had or my first bike, that was a very good bang for the buck.
00;44;53;26 - 00;45;16;00
Yeah, like, I mean, looking at bikes now, you got the trans out, which would have been probably something I would have definitely looked at. Yeah. When I first came out because the has way more electronics so it bare bones and a bit more beefier like suspension and tire and wheels compared to the CB 500 XT that I had.
00;45;16;00 - 00;45;36;09
Does it make you wonder too? Sometimes it's like because you know, I look at it I had to get a car and 20 and brand new car and 2021 Yeah awful time to buy it you know. But now better than now. Yeah I think I said in the line but like, but just like, you know, like it looks like drivers for their cars are, they're more and more they're expecting things just to be standard on a car.
00;45;36;10 - 00;45;59;08
Yeah. And do you think that's kind of happening now too. Like from with motorcycle I obviously like that. Maybe things haven't changed that much since 2020. Yeah, but like at the same time for the the bikes that we're seeing come out now, like we're seeing a lot more or lot less barebones bikes for beginners. Yeah, I haven't thought of it until you just mentioned it, but I think they would actually make a really good topic for for a full episode.
00;45;59;08 - 00;46;21;01
I was just thinking of that. I'm just it seems like there's just more and more like being expected to be then. I think I kind of agree. I mean, I feel like it also depends on what category of bike you're looking at, like adventure bikes. I feel like people do kind of expect to see at least like an offroad mode and a way to turn off traction control or at least like offer it like more like offer a higher suspension or a higher suspension.
00;46;21;01 - 00;46;38;14
Spoke to spoked wheels for your tires and things like that. But if you're looking at more of like a like a classic modern, classic bike, I feel like it might be a little bit less of an expectation because if you look at the like the BMW or 90, for example, that's a very barebones bike for what it is, honestly.
00;46;38;14 - 00;46;58;04
Yeah. And it's not a cheap bike sell or even the R 18 from BMW like they were very bare bones look wonderful but very barebones. Yeah. Like very analog bikes actually. I don't even know if they have traction control or anything like that. I think they have abs because I think that's a requirement. Yeah, for most new bikes, but I think it just kind of depends on which model.
00;46;58;04 - 00;47;17;21
But I do kind of agree that I feel like people are kind of expecting it a bit more and more. Yeah. I'm wondering if like if the, if like in the next coming years, maybe if like you won't, you'll start seeing digital screens, you know, and like and you'll have like you're the classic bikes or they're going to keep their needles because yeah, that's part of the experience.
00;47;17;21 - 00;47;35;14
But I feel like instead of like a digital display, like maybe it's there, that's just not going to be right. I don't know. Maybe not even like my dad's Honda shadow. There's no gas gauge. There's no gear indicator, I feel. And I think that was the stat is that technically, I think that technically is like the real back, you know.
00;47;35;15 - 00;47;57;11
But like, but I couldn't do I personally couldn't deal with that. Like at least a fuel gauge because I'm like, I'm like, oh, you average gas like, I don't want that much anxiety. Yeah, I can. I thought, that's interesting. Actually, I'm going to say that for for new riders, it's a nice thing to have. I thought I was going to need it no matter what, but I just rarely I just don't look at my gear indicator that much anymore.
00;47;57;15 - 00;48;12;03
I don't really look at mine either, just unless I'm trying to find neutral. Yeah, I want to make sure it's in neutral. Yeah, that's the only time I pretty much look at it. But other than that, I just kind of bump it up through there. And in those, like in the, in those bikes without it, they always have like a neutral indicator.
00;48;12;03 - 00;48;27;02
That's true. I forgot, you know, so it's like they look for that light but so I thought for sure is like, like, oh no, no, I'm going to mess this up. I need, I need a gear indicator. But not so. Yeah. You're so used to it. Yeah, it's my first. Technically, my first motorcycle experience was a dirt bike when I was a kid.
00;48;27;02 - 00;48;49;23
Yeah, but I was thrown on something way too big because this is going way too fast for me. And so I thought I didn't like motorcycles. And then I, you know, got all of them throw both. Both the bikes. I had had gear indicators and fuel gauges, and I liked having that a lot. Yeah, fuel gauge is nice, but yeah, I think I think for the most variable depend on the price point of bike you're looking at.
00;48;49;23 - 00;49;08;24
I feel like with a more expensive bike you kind of expect when obviously if you step back a few years to Yeah. You're going to get like something is like not going to have some of those features that oh but you're going to save you're going to save a bunch of money. That is very true. So any additional advice for new riders that are tuning into this?
00;49;08;27 - 00;49;27;10
You know, I don't really think so. I just I really just got to go get an idea of what you want to try. Like, what's in your price point, your experience point, you know, because I've heard of it happening. I would. But to me, that's been my worst nightmare, is if I went to test ride a bike at a dealership and I dropped it.
00;49;27;17 - 00;49;47;10
Oh, yeah. You know, and that's actually I didn't ride my my Rebel 500 because in the MSF I rode a Rebel 300. So I was like, I already kind of knew. But at the same time, like if I hadn't done that, I was I thought about that before. I was like, I don't know if I would have like how I just being fresh into it, you know?
00;49;47;10 - 00;50;10;03
Yeah. But I was Oh that's, yeah. And I think that's a good point to kind of wrap things up. Maybe I'm over overly cautious. I mean, I think I got to sort of be too reckless. Yeah. What about you? What you're going to say? Oh, I was going to say like, I feel like that's a good way to kind of wrap it up is just to mention that if you are in the market for a motorcycle, if you're starting out, go to your local dealerships, find out what they have.
00;50;10;03 - 00;50;38;21
Go sit on the like first, try to try to figure out what kind of bike you want. Do you want to do offroad on a touring sport, bike riding around town, Things like that are hitting the twisties. So figure out the category of bike and then go to whatever dealership you can and sit on them, even if you don't feel confident to ride on them, actually sit on them, check them out, play with the controls, feel the sitting sitting position to see how that is so you can sit upright, put the kickstand up.
00;50;38;21 - 00;50;59;14
Yeah. Actually that's yeah. I didn't do that. And just like figure out what it's like to sit on that bike. Yeah. To see because, you know, maybe you think you want a fully faired sports bike and you sit down and you realize, Wow, this hurts my back and I don't want to sit on this for more than 30 minutes.
00;50;59;19 - 00;51;17;21
And you know, you now, you know, because now you went to the dealership and you tried it out and now you know better and just things like that. Same goes with gear. Like imagine you go to the store, try it out, basically. End of the day, I think just just try it out, experiment, see what you like, see what you don't like.
00;51;17;23 - 00;51;39;09
And if dealership lets you go demo on, do it to piggyback off of that with you too. So I don't know about you, but typically I've seen that the the sizing, not just between brands, but just like the sizing of motorcycle clothing is just there's no there's no rhyme or reason. There's no rhyme or reason. Yeah. So we're a large in one brand and I have to go to Excel in another.
00;51;39;15 - 00;51;58;18
Yeah. Even within the same brand, I have to look at different styles because I think my, my sand jacket is a large, my airway of it is a2x which seems. Oh yeah. But it just feels, it just depends on the cut and things like that. So, so just keep that in mind. I think that's a good point to wrap it up.
00;51;58;18 - 00;52;24;24
I think so, yeah. Okay. I think we need to start doing some like socials though, like Instagram. I guess I'm not I'm not touching Twitter, but if you want to. But I'm good, I I'll just that yeah, maybe. Oh yeah. See, because we can sorry about that. We can put clips clips from that on that. Oh yeah. Took to Instagram so we'll, we'll link them down here once we create them or link them in the description once we get around to making them.
00;52;24;26 - 00;52;44;25
And once again, yeah, Thank you so much for listening. And like always, if you have any comments or suggestions or any recommendations for future topics or just, you know, let us know how you're how we're doing or how we can do better, I feel free to shoot us an email, or if you're watching this on YouTube, feel free to leave a comment below.
00;52;44;28 - 00;52;59;23
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